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I had such a great time with Karl Vaters on his podcast called The Church Lobby. Right at the beginning of the conversation, Karl wanted to talk about the subtitle of my book: The metrics that really matter.
Check this out…
Some resources for you to check out:
- My full interview on The Church Lobby podcast
- Another video where I discuss the terms unbiblical, biblical, and non-biblical in more detail
- Information on my book Shepherd Leadership: The Metrics That Really Matter
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