The Craig And Greg Show: From The Inside Out

April 10, 2025 — Craig T. Owens

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Watermelon is a great summer treat. However, sometimes a nice green exterior can hide rotten fruit on the inside. When this happens we don’t say, “Well, at least the outside was nice,” but we throw the whole thing out! We can fall into a similar trap in our leadership, focusing on creating a great exterior while we let our vital interior development rot away. In this episode, Greg and I encourage you to focus first on your internal development, and through that your external image will improve as well.

  • [0:59] A lot of leaders are more interested in what’s on the outside than what’s on the inside.
  • [1:39] Why do leaders naturally gravitate to making the outside look better than the inside?
  • [4:10] Greg wonders if perhaps we enhance our exterior because we’re afraid to be vulnerable.
  • [5:25] If you have to tell people you’re a leader you’re probably not
  • [6:40] Greg and I discuss a list of things we usually recognize, alongside the things we should equally recognize
    • [6:48] 1. Talents and gifts alongside integrity and character.
    • [12:19] 2. Superb product alongside quality process.
    • [15:30] 3. Excellence performance alongside excellent discipline.
  • [19:35] If we ignore the inside stuff what’s the inevitable result?
  • [20:51] Greg likes to ask the question, “What’s new?” as a simple way to assess growth in others.
  • [21:50] I share a discovery from my Bible reading in Romans.
  • [23:03] Greg tells a cautionary tale about a former coworker who didn’t know how to engage in deeper conversation with his team.
  • [24:24] “The best mirror is in a good friend’s eye.” Greg and I would love to be this good friend for you. Reach out to us at here if you’re interested in personalized coaching.

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The Craig And Greg Show: Jargon

March 13, 2025 — Craig T. Owens

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If the expected target metrics of today’s program are met, we expect significant workflow performance advancements from team lead positioned individuals.

Does that seem a little complicated? Jargon in the workplace can very quickly cause significant problems, leading to confusion and disengagement in your team. The solution is simple—clear, concise communication. So let’s try this again without the jargon: Greg and I hope that this episode inspires you to remove the jargon from your communication, and as a result you will see your leadership influence grows.

  • [0:41] Today we are returning to Leadership Builders and Killers with a topic inspired by a series of videos I saw online about business jargon.
  • [3:21] Greg asks, “Why all the jargon?”
  • [5:34] Jargon can take away from what you want to communicate, and can cause others to disengage from the conversation.
  • [8:26] Jargon is antithetical to a commitment to clarity.
  • [9:33] I share a story of a conversation with students that highlights wisdom we can take into the workplace.
  • [12:06] One of the lowest form of communication is assumption.
  • [14:03] It’s important to circle back with people after a meeting to maker sure they understood.
  • [15:13] Jargon frequently shows up when there’s bad news to share, and when leaders are trying to cast vision.
  • [16:50] Sometimes we use jargon to hide.
  • [19:30] I share a story from the life of John Wesley about how he became a better communicator.
  • [21:14] It’s important to communicate with everyone on an even playing field, and not use jargon to avoid being pinned down.
  • [22:39] Using jargon can negatively impact your influence as a leader. Conversely, clear communication will lift your influence.
  • [24:58] Jargon can creep into your communication without you being aware of it. A coach from outside your industry can help you notice these blind spots.

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What’s Inside?

March 4, 2025 — Craig T. Owens

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Far too many leaders spend more time making sure things look good on the outside than they do addressing whether things are good on the inside. Of course, I’m talking about issues like character, and humility, and servant-mindedness. 

Greg and I addresses this on a recent episode of our leadership podcast The Craig and Greg Show. 

Check out the full conversation Greg and I had on this episode called Healthy Leaders. 

And I dive a lot deeper into the issue of true leadership coming from the inside out in my book Shepherd Leadership. 

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The Craig And Greg Show: “The Business Baton”

February 27, 2025 — Craig T. Owens

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Every business owner needs to be prepared for an eventual transition. Whether it be retirement, moving on to a new opportunity, or an M&A offer, nobody can run their business forever. In today’s episode Greg and I sit down to discuss Greg’s new book The Business Baton.

  • [0:35] “Keep your eye on the ball” is important for more than just sports, and far too often business owners forget this advice during the transition process.
  • [2:48] In chapter seven of The Business Baton, Greg discusses how to manage the pace of a transition.
  • [4:04] A Navigator can help you keep your focus on running your company during a transition.
  • [5:34] Greg talks about a few common reasons business owners take their eye off the ball.
  • [12:50] What does an owner disengaging do to the morale of the company?
  • [16:53] I share an interesting statistic from The Business Baton.
  • [19:26] An owners ongoing productivity is essential for maintaining the value of the organization.
  • [23:49] The Business Baton contains real case studies from organizations that Greg has worked with in the past, so you will likely see examples that line up with your industry.
  • [25:04] Greg and I share a section from The Business Baton about productivity.

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The Craig And Greg Show: Healthy Leaders

February 13, 2025 — Craig T. Owens

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In today’s episode, Greg and I discuss what it means to be a healthy leader. We break down the various facets of leadership health, and highlight why each piece is part of an essential structure that supports all of the other parts. This was a very important part in my book Shepherd Leadership.

  • [0:12] Greg and I are looking dapper today!
  • [1:26] We have both gone through the process of writing books.
  • [2:30] I reveal the section of my book Shepherd Leadership that has gotten the most attention.
  • [6:01] I highlight the development of Jesus as recorded in the Gospel of Luke.
  • [8:40] All aspects of health are important because they support each other.
  • [10:06] What happens when we get bumped?
  • [12:25] How do we maintain healthy relationships?
  • [15:11] Investing time into yourself gives you a greater capacity to serve others.
  • [16:50] What signs should we watch for that tell us a relationship is strained?
  • [17:52] Leaders should empower others to solve problems instead of always solving them on their own.
  • [18:54] It’s easier to avoid relational health in the short-term, but it will hurt you down the road.
  • [21:28] What’s the best way to improve a relationship?
  • [22:55] If we have a desire to improve a relationship, how can we get the other person to reciprocate?
  • [25:40] What was my “aha” moment when writing Shepherd Leadership?
  • [27:11] Maximize Leadership is a great coaching resource for you.

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The Craig And Greg Show: The Silent Killers

January 30, 2025 — Craig T. Owens

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To you the term “silent killer” might conjure visions of a lone assassin from a spy movie, or perhaps more mundane but equally deadly things like high blood pressure or carbon monoxide leaks. In today’s episode Greg and I are discussing toxic behaviors that creep into the workplace. They aren’t quite as deadly as the ones listed above, but can still cause massive anger, frustration, and discord in your organization. Join us as we discuss some of the most prevalent toxins we’ve seen, and highlight how you as the leader are responsible for being the safeguard against them.

  • [0:20] Toxic things can sneak into our workplace unless we proactively look for them.
  • [1:35] Leaders need to be honest with their team so their team feels they can be honest with them in return.
  • [3:43] Greg and I discuss some of the toxic behaviors we have seen that create problems in the workplace.
  • [3:54] -Gossip
  • [4:51] -Office Politics
  • [6:42] -Negative Competition
  • [8:37] -Negativity
  • [10:20] -Bureaucracy
  • [12:46] -Braggadocio
  • [14:12] -Bashing
  • [14:46] Toxicity will come to every organization. We as leaders shine in the way we deal with it.
  • [17:47] When I wrote Shepherd Leadership, I spent two chapters discussing the balance between confidence and humility because of how important it is.
  • [19:08] One of our main jobs as leaders is to develop others, but toxicity squashes that.
  • [20:26] A coach can come alongside you to be the “detector” for the silent killers that might be lurking in your organization.

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The Craig And Greg Show: There Are No Shortcuts

January 9, 2025 — Craig T. Owens

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When you’re trying to accomplish a task it’s natural to want to search for the quickest way to get it done. But what if that’s not the best way? In this episode Greg and I discuss why rejecting shortcuts and persevering through struggles will make you a better leader, and also allow you to help your team get better as well. Join us for some powerful motivation to kick off the new year!

  • [0:23] The shortest distance between two points is ____?
  • [1:04] Why do we want things done so quickly?
  • [2:36] When difficulty makes us slow down, our natural inclination is to bail.
  • [3:40] Sometimes slowing down enriches our lives.
  • [5:22] Leaders have to prepare their team for upcoming hardships, and be willing to fight through them with the team.
  • [7:12] Greg discusses how going the extra mile separates you from the crowd.
  • [8:29] Failure informs your success.
  • [9:27] Greg and I discuss our personal experiences with “shortcut culture” in today’s society.
  • [13:11] We discuss why we love grit and stick-to-it-ivness.
  • [16:02] Greg shares a story from his time coaching football that illustrates how a leader can push the team farther.
  • [18:43] We share action points for leaders to implement this new year.
  • [22:35] A leadership coach will help you improve and be better equipped to lead your team.

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The Craig And Greg Show: Help Your Teammates Thrive During The Holidays

December 19, 2024 — Craig T. Owens

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It’s no secret that the holiday season becomes extremely busy for us at work and in our personal lives. If we are too busy, we can miss out on the joy of this season. On this episode, Greg and I discuss ways that leaders can help their teammates not just survive but thrive during the holidays.

  • [0:36] Leaders help their teammates find and set healthy boundaries. 
  • [2:49] A good starting point is simply acknowledging the stress that we or others are feeling.
  • [4:01] Can we intentionally scale-back some things at work during busy seasons?
  • [5:06] Leaders also need to talk with their teammates about their personal responsibilities.
  • [8:43] Leaders need to make sure they are modeling all that they are telling our teams.
  • [11:02] Stephen Covey had some wise words for us about priorities.
  • [14:07] Be proactive about some of the strong emotions some of your teammates may be experiencing.
  • [18:01] Leadership has to be about the people!
  • [20:33] Here are your leadership takeaways.

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The Craig And Greg Show: We Are Grateful

November 27, 2024 — Craig T. Owens

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We are grateful for you! Greg and I love talking about leadership, and it’s a great joy that you tune in to listen. In this episode we discuss why an attitude of gratefulness is so important for leaders year-round, not just around the holidays.

  • [0:17] We are so grateful for you! 
  • [1:25] What is it about gratitude that make someone a great leader?
  • [4:28] Grateful leaders have greater influence with people around them.
  • [8:14] It’s easier to build consensus on our teams when we have a thankful paradigm.
  • [10:52] Thankful correlates with graceful. This is such an attractive quality for leaders.
  • [14:10] Greg asks me elaborate on how gratitude ties into my book Shepherd Leadership.
  • [16:09] How does a grateful mindset help us get through the tough times?
  • [18:56] Happiness is not the same as joy. Joy is much deeper and serves us as leaders much better because happiness can be gone really quickly.
  • [23:16] We give you some “homework” that will help you grow your gratitude.

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The Craig And Greg Show: The Business Baton

November 14, 2024 — Craig T. Owens

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One of my friend Greg’s passions is helping business owners with the final step of their journey—succession of the organization. It was this passion that drove him to write his new book The Business Baton. In today’s episode Greg and I discuss the new book, and Greg lays out his philosophy for a smooth succession process.

  • [0:15] Greg has written a new book called The Business Baton.
  • [0:53] Greg opened his book with a chapter that surprised me.
  • [1:51] What makes a person ill-prepared to hand off the baton in their organization?
  • [3:26] The questions Greg asks to make sure a business is really ready to hand off the baton.
  • [6:34] Greg’s book has a lot of statistics and case studies to help guide readers who are considering handing off the baton.
  • [8:18] In Greg’s new book he continued a trend he started in his previous book Sage Advice.
  • [10:07] Sometimes a succession navigator has to push for some emotional choices to help you get your business across the finish line.
  • [12:21] Greg discusses the readiness, formation, increase, selection, and succession steps needed to get to a place where a business is ready to sell.
  • [17:02] I really appreciated the voices of other business leaders that Greg included in the book.
  • [17:31] The end of The Business Baton reminds exiting leaders to lead well. 
  • [19:45] Greg gives his final thoughts on writing this book and the role of a succession navigator in the process.
  • [24:03] Visit Maximize Leadership to learn more about how Greg can help you as a succession navigator.

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